[HARMRED] Tar heroin & Oxycontin question
Dan Bigg
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Tue Nov 9 15:43:10 CST 2010
This looks like a document from Richard Nixon!
Dan
At 11:57 AM -0500 11/9/10, Nabarun Dasgupta wrote:
>Hi Monte,
>
>There were a series of experiments done in the
>lab before the OxyContin OP was launched to
>determine if it could be smoked. The basic
>results were that it was very hard to smoke,
>even after crushing it. FDA/Purdue redacted much
>of the details of these experiments before
>making them public. You can see what's left
>after the censors here:
>
>http://www.fda.gov/downloads/AdvisoryCommittees/CommitteesMeetingMaterials/Drugs/AnestheticAndLifeSupportDrugsAdvisoryCommittee/UCM183205.pdf
>
>On page 122 of the document, the Purdue
>scientists conclude that based on their
>findings, very little of the oxycodone gets out
>if you try to smoke it. But that is all in the
>lab. What are people seeing in the real world?
>Seems to be some success in getting the drugs
>out based on internet posts, but i don't think
>it is widespread at this time.
>
>THE MOST SERIOUS PROBLEM WITH THE NEW OXYCONTIN
>OP is the fear that people will shoot the gunk
>in an artery. Basically we want to avoid this:
>you crush the pill, mix it with water, it turns
>into a gummy gel mess, you suck it into a big
>bore needle, and shoot it in your femoral
>artery. This is what happened in the UK when
>they introduced similar tamper-deterrent
>formulations -- the result was gangrene, loss of
>limbs, etc. Very gross. Paper from 1994 is
>attached. Alice Bell has made some nice
>pamphlets on this. We need more awareness.
>
>The use of tar instead/because of the
>tamper-deterrent formulation is something we as
>a community need to document and tell FDA and
>the pharmaceutical industry. There are many more
>of these types of hard to crush formulations
>coming down the pipeline, and FDA has expressed
>the desire to see ALL controlled substances be
>in tamper-deterrent forms. No strong harm
>reduction or drug user perspective has been
>involved in all this, sadly. I hope we can find
>our voice and remind people that "abusers" have
>a right to health as well.
>
>Nab
>
>
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>On Oct 25, 2010, at 4:49 PM, Monte Levine wrote:
>
>> Does anyone know the approximate ph of west
>>coast tar heroin? Just how acidic is it?
>>
>>
>> Have recently heard from one of our younger
>>folks that the use of tar is increasing due to
>>the new formulation of Oxycodone, extended
>>release. Am told that they can't shoot them
>>anymore. I forgot to ask if they could still be
>>smoked. Anyone know?
>>
>>
>> Be well Y'all
>> monte
>>
>>
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