[HARMRED] Overdose response: Naloxone versus Artificial respiration??

peter mahomet peter.mahomet at gmail.com
Fri Oct 15 01:57:13 CDT 2010


Thanks Dan

Fantastic advice and pearls of wisdom :)

Cheers
Peter

On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 1:47 PM, Dan Bigg <cra at attglobal.net> wrote:

>  Peter -
>
> In the Chicago area we had a massive increase in OD deaths in the 1990s
> (long after mouth to mouth was common knowledge) and it only appeared to
> stop, and even lessen, by making naloxone available to people through
> outreach.
>
> Your question seems to beg for a scientific trial but I wonder about the
> ethics of depriving people of a medicine which has been the standard of care
> in medicine/emergency response for 40 years. Either way a large study
> similar to what you describe among people being released from incarceration
> is to be started in the UK.
>
> I wonder why the precedents with take-home injected epinephrine (severe
> allergies) and glucagon (insulin OD) didn't have to undergo the same
> deprivation from people at risk as naloxone has?
>
> My guess is the only reason to deprive people of the antidote to a
> potentially lethal drug is that they are being punished or that their death
> is cheapened by society because of their drug use. Talk about deprivation of
> human rights!
>
> Having done mouth to mouth in 4 cases I can tell you it is NOT easy to keep
> up over time even if you luck out and have a smaller person than yourself to
> revive.
>
> Here's to hoping we, as a society, RELEASE THE ANTIDOTE both economically
> and bureaucratically!
>
> Peace, Dan
>
> At 11:56 AM +0700 10/15/10, peter mahomet wrote:
>
> Hi all
>
> Can people please tell me of their experiences with the effectiveness of:
> (i) ONLY mouth-to-mouth resuscitation as compared to (ii) mouth-to-mouth
> PLUS administering Naloxone, during heroin overdose events?
>
> I realize there are numerous other factors to consider, but I'm trying to
> keep the question above nice and simple.  The jury still seems out... There
> is some debate in Southeast Asian countries as to whether they should push
> to have Naloxone widely available.
>
> I'd really appreciate people's thoughts & experiences
>
> Cheers
> Peter
>
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